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Comments on A Trail Runner's Blog: Lon Freeman's Western States 100 Experience





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Not only 15 bucks, but some kick-ass photos lookin...

2007-07-18T20:54:00.000-07:00

Not only 15 bucks, but some kick-ass photos looking very lithe and athletic. How do I get Luis Escobar to photograph me looking so? (I usually look like a skinny dork...)



Thanks for sharing, Lon. So many lessons to learn ...

2007-07-06T09:35:00.000-07:00

Thanks for sharing, Lon. So many lessons to learn in each ultra, no matter the experience. And very specific ones as you push the envelope to this level. I had bet on you on Greg's blog, I'll do it again next year if you can manage to get in! And not injured again in the meantime. Train safely...

Jean, Farther Faster



I think the 'quad invincibility' you mention, Greg...

2007-07-02T10:38:00.000-07:00

I think the 'quad invincibility' you mention, Greg, does have a lot to do with experience and running style in addition to recovery time. I think it takes awhile to develop it - and some people may never develop it given their 'constant breaking' downhill style that Greg talks about on his blog.

And I agree with you, Rod, that hundred milers are a different animal from 50s or 100 Kms. Lon ran so well in his first one at AC to finish 4th in 20:30-something, so he obviously can do it - but you're right that it's a long way to 'hang on' and finish when you start having problems. Wow - glad that you're doing ok. I had a voicemail message from Rob regarding you, but didn't know the outcome. Take good care of yourself!

Thanks, as always, Scott, for the great blog!

Sarah



Scott, thanks for the incredible postings... I che...

2007-07-02T10:07:00.000-07:00

Scott, thanks for the incredible postings... I check your blog daily and truly enjoy reading up on the world of running. I am a somewhat newbie runner (just really getting back into after having a baby!) and currently have a running/informational blog for a retail licensee of New Balance, NBwebexpress.com. Thank you again! I hope to hear a comment soon! http://blog.nbwebexpress.com/



Scott, thanks so much for posting this, and Lon, t...

2007-07-01T11:47:00.000-07:00

Scott, thanks so much for posting this, and Lon, thanks for sharing!

After Lon's win at Miwok, like Will, I was also following him on the webcast and was sorry to see when he dropped.

It was really nice to read the whole story and hear what happened. Plenty of things for everyone to learn (or be reminded of) for running 100. A good reminder too that even the best sometimes DNF, and that's as much a part of the sport as anything else for most people.

Thanks again!



I am really curious to what Jurek and Trason did b...

2007-06-30T13:46:00.000-07:00

I am really curious to what Jurek and Trason did between Miwok wins and WS 100. I think the 7 or so weeks would be enough to fully recover from the trauma done to the quad muscle cells(some would say that kind of race is in fact needed training)7 weeks out from the race.

My theory is that both Greg Crowther and Lon did long training runs between Miwok and WS 100 that prevented full recovery of their quad muscles. Then race day both battled hard but were undone.

Did Jurek and Trason run anything hilly & beyond 30 miles between Miwok and states? If so how many...just one? two? Or does it have more to do with Lon and Greg being newer to the 100 mile distance? Does quad invincibility take years to develope?



Lon will be back and have some great 100's. My ta...

2007-06-30T09:08:00.000-07:00

Lon will be back and have some great 100's. My take, and I don't claim to be nearly as fast as Lon, is that even if you have tons of experience in other arenas, 100's are a learning process. I have found that most people of solid endurance backgrounds can really race hard for 50 miles or so. In a 100K, at 50 miles, you can smell the barn and muster up another 12 miles without too much problems. In a 100, you have another 50 miles which is a major mental hurdle. I call it the "100 mile" shock. Most people get it in their first 100. Most likely, you are going to suffer in that last 40 miles or so, and its not fun. It sounds like Lon really wanted the win or a top finish and just finishing wouldn't have been worth it. He probably made the correct decision. Similarly, my quads were completely trashed by the end of the race. I saw my projected 18 hour finish slip away as I just had no downhill legs left. I ended up puttering in for a 19:20 finish. I did do severe damage and had a CPK reading of 90,000 (highest recorded in race) and spent much of the next two days in hospitals being VERY close to kideny dialysis. So, in my opinion, Lon did the right thing and pulled when things got ugly. I think next year he'll be ready for the mental second fifty and will do really well. Obviously, just my opinion.
Rod Bien



Thanks, Lon and Scott, for sharing. I agree with J...

2007-06-30T07:36:00.000-07:00

Thanks, Lon and Scott, for sharing. I agree with Jon that from this year's reports I learned a big deal of many things potentially working and non-working in a 100 that I could dial into. I find it interesting that both Lon and Greg G. put hard effort at MiWok as a big "stopper" for their WS performance. Wasn't Jurek racing MiWok every year before WS? I heard he didn't "give it all" at 100k, but still, he won and placed every time, right? There is also Karl who races a 100 every month...what is interesting is that many can only be "hot" a couple of times a year, and many "race their selves in shape". But then again, there was a talk on the list about what could be achieved if those "racers" didn't race so often...I am just curious.
Also interesting statement about neccessety of addidng solid food to liquid calories. Something to think about.
Thanks again, guys, great run and great interview.



Nice write up! I think I've learned more from ever...

2007-06-30T00:41:00.000-07:00

Nice write up! I think I've learned more from everyone's WS Race Reports on better fueling, training, and nutrition than any of the books I've read on improving endurance.

Hey Scott, any chance that you'll talk to Hal Koerner? I'm still suprised that there was no mention of him anywhere before the race started as a potential winner.



Thanks for posting Scott, great stuff.Yeah Lon was...

2007-06-30T00:31:00.000-07:00

Thanks for posting Scott, great stuff.

Yeah Lon was my pre-race favorite, and I followed along throughout the day via the webcast...to read his own open/honest account of the day is definitely insightful and much appreciated.

I'm sure he will find great success with the race in years to come, no doubt.

Will G.



Haha, I loved this: "since none of us knew the oth...

2007-06-29T19:48:00.000-07:00

Haha, I loved this: "since none of us knew the other's native language, we didn't have to get out of breath talking about where we were from or how we were doing."



Lon did an amazing job at Miwok with his course re...

2007-06-29T19:38:00.000-07:00

Lon did an amazing job at Miwok with his course record; no surprise he wasn't at his peak just 7 weeks later. Still, I applaud his courage to know when to quit. Greg Crowther got all kinds of crap in the comments on his RW entry about not quitting - people just have to see that it's not a bad outcome to drop if you are going to do your body harm. Lon will be back, no doubt.



Thanks for sharing your story, Lon. I saw you comi...

2007-06-29T16:56:00.000-07:00

Thanks for sharing your story, Lon. I saw you coming through at Forest Hill while I was waiting for my runner and you looked good.

Hey, at least you got $15 towards next year's entry fee :)

Take care,
Pete