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Updated: 2017-11-17T18:59:34.256-05:00

 



"Why There"...in Alberta? Not many Cana...

2010-02-28T15:18:53.297-05:00

"Why There"...in Alberta? Not many Canadins know that during the WWII there were thousands of German prisoners housed in Alberta. Most of them returned after the WWII especially in the south of Alberta. They anglicised their names as much as possible. The second languaged preferred in school is not French but German. Many of these people belong to Aryan groups.



ti-GAY get off your knees wipe the berries ...

2010-02-28T02:19:42.205-05:00

ti-GAY
get off your knees
wipe the berries from your face
stop hanging around public toilets
get a job
stop stealing my money



The BS coming from the brainwashed supporters of C...

2010-02-27T19:23:38.682-05:00

The BS coming from the brainwashed supporters of Con propoganda is very telling isn't it? Constantly combative, no matter what, without proof and facts. Not very impressive.

I recently watched a documentary on the KKK in Canada. I must admit I wasn't aware how strong it was here - the major strength being in Saskatchewan.

Also the stats on crime in Canada. The most number of hate crimes in Canada are in Alberta.

So, keep attacking Ontario there folks, we can take it. You can't. You think attacking other provinces take all your problems away? How childish



The BS coming from the brainwashed supporters of C...

2010-02-27T19:23:26.433-05:00

The BS coming from the brainwashed supporters of Con propoganda is very telling isn't it? Constantly combative, no matter what, without proof and facts. Not very impressive.

I recently watched a documentary on the KKK in Canada. I must admit I wasn't aware how strong it was here - the major strength being in Saskatchewan.

Also the stats on crime in Canada. The most number of hate crimes in Canada are in Alberta.

So, keep attacking Ontario there folks, we can take it. You can't. You think attacking other provinces take all your problems away? How childish



To be honest Frank Bi, I really don't understa...

2010-02-27T16:12:25.127-05:00

To be honest Frank Bi, I really don't understand what you're trying to say or what your critique was of my original comment.



Any why again are you banned from Dawg's? Bec...

2010-02-27T16:10:08.659-05:00

Any why again are you banned from Dawg's?

Because I called his co-blogger a "vache" when she accused me of speaking from a position of "male privilege" when I argued that Sarah Palin's so-called feminism was a fraud, for which I refused (and refuse) to apologise for. At least, that was the original reason.

Now, I'm just not interested in anything most of the commenters there have to say. They say the same things, over and over again. So my status as banned is frankly, moot. I will say that I'm happy to be banned from a blog that puts out the welcome mat for Wendy "Indians Fuck their Daughters" Sullivan (RightGirl), though.

I have no idea what you're talking about with the rest of your comment. The cabal I'm talking about are right wing liars and blood-thirsty war-mongers, nothing more, nothing less.



Marky Mark: So now you're saying that, becaus...

2010-02-27T16:09:25.056-05:00

Marky Mark:

So now you're saying that, because Neo-Nazis aren't a real problem, therefore we're not allowed to criticize them unless we devote equal time to criticizing Hamas?

-- bi



um...is anyone actually in favour of neo-Nazis in ...

2010-02-27T15:57:00.044-05:00

um...is anyone actually in favour of neo-Nazis in Canada other than the neo-Nazis? And are they really a problem in Canada that isn't being handled by law enforcement?



I asked: "So what's the idea here exactl...

2010-02-27T15:53:56.632-05:00

I asked:

"So what's the idea here exactly? That neo-Nazism is acceptable as long as Hamas exists? Or that the best way to counter a bunch of Muslim extremists is with a bunch of white supremacist extremists?"

Marky Mark answers:

"None of the above. The way to fight against a tendency on the Left to ally with human rights abusers and rejectionists is to do so on democratic liberal principles which have stood the test of time."

I think I get it. You're saying that way to fight neo-Nazism is to ignore it and go after Hamas, and only after that's done are we allowed to go after the neo-Nazis.

And by "democratic liberal principles" I think you're referring to the right to use diversionary tactics, the right to concern troll, and the right to post fact-free assertions? No doubt, these rights have truly stood the test of time!

-- bi



Actually, Alberta's flirtation with the KKK in...

2010-02-27T15:49:12.124-05:00

Actually, Alberta's flirtation with the KKK in the 1920s or 1930s was limited, at least partly because the editors of the local newspapers united against it. The KKK did better in Saskatchewan.

Alberta, Saskatchewan, c'est toute la même chose, c'est aussi platte. ;)



All I have to say is I'll be damned if I'm...

2010-02-27T15:45:56.904-05:00

All I have to say is I'll be damned if I'm going to sit back and allow a minuscule cabal of right wing liars and blood-thirsty war-mongers dictate Canadian foreign policy and subject the rest of us to emotional blackmail in their attempt to do so.

Pot kettle black. AS if the IAW and BDS movement weren't about a small group trying to intimidate opponents and hijack policy.

And a bit rich from someone who rightly decries bigotry against Muslims while denying the existence of anti-Semtism unless and until it manifests itself in pogrom like violence.

Any why again are you banned from Dawg's?

Go bully someone else.



Ti-Guy, you don't really think I'm going t...

2010-02-27T15:39:17.066-05:00

Ti-Guy, you don't really think I'm going to subject myself to cross examination by you, do you? ;)

Just so long as you don't expect me to engage you in a discussion about Israel. You can go back to Dawg's and do that.

All I have to say is I'll be damned if I'm going to sit back and allow a minuscule cabal of right wing liars and blood-thirsty war-mongers dictate Canadian foreign policy and subject the rest of us to emotional blackmail in their attempt to do so.



None of the above. The way to fight against a ten...

2010-02-27T15:36:15.270-05:00

None of the above. The way to fight against a tendency on the Left to ally with human rights abusers and rejectionists is to do so on democratic liberal principles which have stood the test of time.



"It's very troubling how many in the '...

2010-02-27T15:32:11.463-05:00

"It's very troubling how many in the 'public' Jewish community are forging an alliance with the Right and turning a blind eye to some of the elements included in the Right."

So, Marky Mark is very, very, very troubled indeed by the neo-Nazi movement in Canada. And that's' why he spends so much time trying to distract people's attention away from it.

So what's the idea here exactly? That neo-Nazism is acceptable as long as Hamas exists? Or that the best way to counter a bunch of Muslim extremists is with a bunch of white supremacist extremists?

-- bi



Ti. You sure are cleaning up your backyard with th...

2010-02-27T15:28:40.020-05:00

Ti. You sure are cleaning up your backyard with the Toronto 18. Might as well hang a Welcome sign for terrorists at Pearson Airport.

And just what are you doing to prevent a similar event from occurring in your precious Alberta?

You're hopelessly confused, Paulie. Doing anything about potential criminals is the responsibility of security and intelligence services. Fighting public campaigns that aim to stigmatise groups of people and ramp up hatred are the responsibility of good Canadian citizens. And I'm not talking abou the Aryan Guard here. I'm talking about Ezra Levant.



Ti-Guy, you don't really think I'm going t...

2010-02-27T14:33:22.066-05:00

Ti-Guy, you don't really think I'm going to subject myself to cross examination by you, do you? ;)

I will say that I too don't know what Liberal policy is today. But given your reference to an "honest broker" role, which has been our historical role, it's reasonable to ask how you play an honest broker between two parties when one of them (Hamas) has a Charter and platform to eliminate the other, contrary to international law and various UN resolutions, as well as an unabashedly anti-Semitic Charter. Hamas wants a Muslim country from the river to the sea, governed by sharia law. Sounds to me like more than a "you say a foot, you say six inches, let's compromise" type of problem.

As for IAW, Iggy has been pretty clear-he noted during IAW last yea: “International law defines ‘Apartheid’ as a crime against humanity. Labeling Israel an ‘Apartheid’ state is a deliberate attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the Jewish state itself.”



Actually, Alberta's flirtation with the KKK in...

2010-02-27T14:27:05.208-05:00

Actually, Alberta's flirtation with the KKK in the 1920s or 1930s was limited, at least partly because the editors of the local newspapers united against it. The KKK did better in Saskatchewan.



Oh... and I classify any religious nut-case as a c...

2010-02-27T14:15:37.126-05:00

Oh... and I classify any religious nut-case as a conservative. That's patently obviously.



A few words about the Convention. I toyed with su...

2010-02-27T14:13:53.153-05:00

A few words about the Convention. I toyed with supporting Rae... even though I was with Iggy... Reason I didn't go is the same reason almost all Liberals who didn't, didn't - the "legacy" of an NDP provincial government in Ontario during a recession. Rightly, or wrongly, we felt that this would be an issue to hamstring him during a snap election, and it would be better that he become "seasoned" as an MP and critic on the Liberal benches before ascending to the leadership. A lot of Liberals on the center-right felt uncomfortable with what they thought Rae's fiscal policies would be.

On the leaflets which were circulated by some anonymous source (leaflets which no-one I knew saw - including myself): there was a fairly accurate rumor that these were distributed by Conservative shite-disturbers, as many of these people were seen on the fringes of the convention. They were not paid attendees, or invited "guests". The convention center was open to public access, and one could walk into one of the many gates - particularly towards the subway - without any questions asked.



LOL Ti. You sure are cleaning up your backyard wit...

2010-02-27T14:11:25.019-05:00

LOL Ti. You sure are cleaning up your backyard with the Toronto 18. Might as well hang a Welcome sign for terrorists at Pearson Airport.

Next the OHRC will be awarding money to the terrorists for the indignities they've suffered.



It's very simple--BDS and IAW are creations of...

2010-02-27T14:10:39.445-05:00

It's very simple--BDS and IAW are creations of activists on the Left-is this statement even remotely in dispute?

Read my comment again. I didn't dispute that part.

Given that there clearly existed an organized campaign that was busted only because someone went up to Arlene herself, it's obvious that others were approached who didn't recoil in horror and "out" these people. I think it's reasonable to assume that those people found the pitch inoffensive, at a minimum, and perhaps persuasive.

So, instead of acknowledging you have no evidence, you're choosing to make additional baseless assertions? Very weak.

Clearly there are those who would like the LPC's position re: the ME to be different-do you disagree?

I dunno. What is the LPC's position re: the ME these days? Traditionally, it was "Canada as honest broker," but even that's become anti-semitic, has it not?

I suppose Ti-Guy that if a political party took a position against affirmative action or against equality for women you'd be equally outraged if members of that party who affilaited with those groups noticed the policy and wondered how the hell they were going to campaign for that party in their communities.

You have to prove to me first that the assertions you made earlier are grounded in fact before I can deal with this particular hypothetical, which, as it stands now, is irrelevant.



Clean up your own backyard We did. That's w...

2010-02-27T13:54:02.892-05:00

Clean up your own backyard

We did. That's why they all moved to Alberta and were greeted with open arms by Albertan stalwarts such as Ezra Levant. Hey, there's only so much we can do in a country that guarantees residential/mobility rights.

As to why so many of them are Ontarian, what statistic can you refer to that supports this? Alberta has its own, homegrown history of flirting with organised hate groups, most notably the KKK.



It's very simple--BDS and IAW are creations of...

2010-02-27T13:49:45.162-05:00

It's very simple--BDS and IAW are creations of activists on the Left-is this statement even remotely in dispute?

Those activists tend to reduce Israel to its conflict with the Palestinians, resisting any and all attempts to put Israel in its full context (or "rebrand" it) and tend to view Israel alone as responsible for that conflict. The misdeeds of Hamas and its ilk are tuned out and minimized, with Israel bearing the responsibility for whatever happens. Is this summary incorrect? Go to a march and you'll see people on the Left, not people on the Right, including in some cases the flags and other symbols of organizations devoted to Israel's destruction. Funding for IAW includes organizations like CUPE, and not any right leaning organziations.

What I'm describing has more to do with the NDP than the Libs, but by the same token it has more to do with the Libs than with the Conservatives, which is why the latter tried to use this as a wedge issue with their notorious flyers.

Of course I don't know how many votes Bob Rae lost because of a clearly organized campaign to brand him as unfit due to he and his wife being "Zionists." Given that there clearly existed an organized campaign that was busted only because someone went up to Arlene herself, it's obvious that others were approached who didn't recoil in horror and "out" these people. I think it's reasonable to assume that those people found the pitch inoffensive, at a minimum, and perhaps persuasive. Clearly there are those who would like the LPC's position re: the ME to be different-do you disagree?

I suppose Ti-Guy that if a political party took a position against affirmative action or against equality for women you'd be equally outraged if members of that party who affilaited with those groups noticed the policy and wondered how the hell they were going to campaign for that party in their communities.



Why do so many extremists originate from Ontario? ...

2010-02-27T13:34:58.543-05:00

Why do so many extremists originate from Ontario?

Kyle McKee is a fine product of Ontario's public education system.

Convicted eco-terrorist Liebo Ludwig hails from Ontario too.

And the Toronto 18? All fine Ontario boys.

Takes a lot of gall BCL to post such a frivolous article on the same week another T18 member gets a slap on the wrist.

Clean up your own backyard and quit expecting other provinces to deal with your violent fanatics.



The Left has no problem taking the same side as Ha...

2010-02-27T13:32:04.950-05:00

The Left has no problem taking the same side as Hamas and other clearly anti-Semitic actors

What evidence can you provide to back this up?

and basically is no longer clearly in support of the idea of there being an Israel altogether, whatever its borders;

What evidence can you provide to back this up?

The federal Liberals tolerated an openly anti-Semitic smear on Bob Rae...

What evidence can you provide that suggests the federal Liberals tolerated this attack, which, if memory serves, could not be attributed to anyone specific?

with it being quite likely that he lost the leadership contest to an inferior candidate solely on the basis of he and his wife being "Zionists."

How do you arrive at this conclusion?

making it very hard for those in a community with long roots in the LPC to make a case to others in the community.

By those in the community, do you mean people such as yourself?

You know, this always comes off as a threat: "Back off Israel or we'll all vote Conservative and then you'll be sorry."

It's almost anti-semitic, when you think about it.