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By: Bruno Torquato

Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:18:42 +0000

I'd like to address Steve Morris's question about originality: Well, what is design, anyway? We could discuss that for hours and get nowhere, but whatever your definition, I assume that everyone would agree that it is in some way tied to culture. By definition, culture is social in nature. It is defined by other people in the world and how you interact with them; circularly, it also comes to define those people and interactions. It's the foundation of human existence: we take things that people have done, we perceive them however we do, and we send them back into the world for others to do the same. Originality happens constantly. When we take these things that other people have done and we think about them, that's originality right there. It's basically a measure of the perceptions that happen at this moment, not so much of the output that it generates. It's all a matter of relative perception. One can only perceive somebody else's output as "original" so long as they experience it, and feel that it illustrates a perception that is somehow different from their own.

By: David Airey

Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:11:31 +0000

Ah yes, Ebi, I know all too well about those "freelance opportunities" where you're really just working for a recruitment agency, being farmed out to take care of the menial work in a large corporation. I tried a few of those when I started out, but couldn't hack it. Not for me. If you ever put your paintings online, do let me know. It'd be great to have a look.

By: Jon Liebold

Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:34:31 +0000

Jesse: Im just glad the commercials have toned down. I remember when I was watching a TV show and every commercial break had at least some sue-someone commercial for it be it the ambulance-chasers or the class-action-chasers.

By: Jessica Griffin

Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:14:09 +0000

Jon makes a great point about how we are lawsuit-happy as a society. While most lawsuits are serious and genuine, some of them are merely attempts at spiting a former employer, partner, spouse or even the Government.

By: Ebi Atawodi

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:06:22 +0000

But I am alone David! Maybe even too alone (*looks left right left again*. repeat) I've been freelancing for a while but mostly one of those freelancers that still had to go into the office as most london agencies would "prefer". I once had to freelance in Mortlake, 2 hours from my flat in NW London! Everyday! So I didn't really have all the perks of being a "freelancer" asides having really loonggg holidays. And I always had long gigs, they'd call me in for one thing and keep me there for 2 others and then I'd have to run because I get so bored. Until I moved back to Nigeria in december. Now I work from my studio at the back of the house and am a "real" freelancer, more often these days I draw and paint because clients either can't afford me (here) or take forever to feedback on comps!

By: David Airey

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:02:45 +0000

"I wonder how much more I should've asked for?" Now there's a question anyone in self-employment will ask themselves at one time or another. Ebi, do you ever think about going it alone? From the comments you've left it seems you have the experience.

By: Nick

Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:15:13 +0000

It is true. But budgets of projects of freelancers or small agencies which consist of 3 people (web designer, programmer and imposer) are below, than big agencies which have many workers includes testers, SEO-workers, managers etc. And they calculate the price of projects, including depreciation charges, outage, pay-envelope of workers. I think that is the reason why these large agencies wants so much money.

By: Ebi Atawodi

Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:46:12 +0000

Have to agree. I freelanced at an agency some time back where they wouldn't really touch a project if the budget was under £25,000. It was a very flat and open agency so I got to see quite a lot of invoices/quotes etc. Some figures would make your head spin. In particular one website that cost about £50k - £100k which I know I could have put together for less than half (the funny thing though is the size of a budget is inversely proportional to how difficult/fussy the client becomes). The rate card then had some costs like, burn CD £150, burn DVD £200, email digital file £100. Designer day rate £800. Director day rate £1400. So when you have numbers like that it does start to add up even for a small flash banner.

By: Rob Cubbon

Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:28:15 +0000

I think Douglas's comment was so funny because I've worked for those agencies as well and, although I never actually got to see the bills, I can only imagine what they used to charge for a few hour's work. But pricing's a funny thing. How many times have we given an estimate for a job and heard the client's sigh of relief under his breath when he says, "OK, great!" and we're thinking "I wonder how much more I should have asked for"?

By: Andrew Kelsall

Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:20:02 +0000

@David → Yeah, it does make me think some more. I think I have the tendency to underestimate when pricing up jobs. I'm doing a cd cover at the moment, and it's starting to take hours longer than expected. I've learned a lot about my pricing structure via Billings for Mac. I setup timers for projects, and it shows me, damningly in some cases, exactly how long some projects take. In future, I may take the Douglas-approach and see where it leads :D I'm not talking about over-pricing, but rather rational pricing.