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2007-09-15T18:56:00.000-05:00
FWIW, I think Entropy is thinking of the Carthusians. The only order that never needed reform, being so strict to begin with!2007-09-14T21:39:00.000-05:00
All I've got to say about flip flops & jeans is, well, I guess we should consider ourselves lucky they're not wearing heels?? :P2007-09-14T21:17:00.000-05:00
Melanie, I thought Cistercians were cloistered (or whatever the word is for monks) and silent?2007-09-14T19:45:00.000-05:00
When I was a freshman in college, albeit a private Catholic school, my first English professor, a Cistercian priest, would send students out of his class if they were inappropriately dressed. I confess I never was tempted to do the same when I was teaching, though I agree with the comment about TMI about my female students' undergarments. I do think that students should show respect to their2007-09-13T20:13:00.000-05:00
When we were kids my mom always made us dress up--comfortable but Sunday nice--that's just how it was supposed to be. I still like to dress up to fly. Weird.2007-09-13T15:27:00.000-05:00
I've breast fed on planes (United both times, IIRC), with no problems. I did the best I could to cover up though, not being one to 'whip' my 'boobs' out in public. ;-) But the first time Gui wouldn't tolerate the blanket so I was covered mostly by the flap on my nursing shirt and it must have been pretty obvious what was going on. No one complained, most people just left us be, and one flight2007-09-13T14:41:00.000-05:00
In fact, a male traveler asked me some questions about breastfeeding.2007-09-13T13:14:00.000-05:00
That's really outrageous. While I often question individual clothing choices, I certainly don't support the kind of policing that these airlines appear to be doing. Besides, just last week, as I was walking across campus, I passed a girl whose "dress" barely covered her rear end and another girl whose shorts were, at best, three inches long from waist to hem (i.e., the tiniest shorts I've ever2007-09-13T13:10:00.000-05:00
I think the clothing decency question has something to do with what influences our definitions of "self respect," but that's DEFINITELY another post! ;) I haven't had such a problem with it personally, as my students tend to wear more gym clothes than anything else, but my husband complained that he never saw so many tattoos that he shouldn't have been seeing or knew as much about where his2007-09-13T11:41:00.000-05:00
You know when I saw that news bit I was pulled two ways. On the one hand, I'm sick of the anything goes attitude toward clothing. On the other hand, yeah I'm disturbed by the arbitrary and dictatorial way in which people like these airline officials wield their petty power. I've had some pretty negative experiences traveling alone with my baby girl when the airline people obviously hated children2007-09-13T10:45:00.001-05:00
BTW... "fuzz out her nether regions"... LOL!!! Hah! ;D (sorry)2007-09-13T10:38:00.000-05:00
Hah!! That's good. Didn't she know that only Sharon Stone can get away with that? (I think there have been a few more recent celebrity examples.) Or perhaps by creating a scandal, she expected to reach celebrity status. But it still illustrates the loophole. The halter dress sounded pretty innocent. I guess if it didn't fit correctly, it could be revealing, but that's pretty commonplace,2007-09-13T10:19:00.000-05:00
To be fair, apparently when Ebbert went on the Today Show, they had to fuzz out her nether regions when she sat down because apparently the skirt (the same one she wore on the plane) was short enough to flash the entire audience. I'd probably complain to a flight attendant if I was on a flight with children and one of them pointed out to me that 'I can see that lady's pantys!' (or worse "that2007-09-13T09:30:00.000-05:00
And, of course, what is interesting is that breastfeeding is choice for helping infants and babies deal with air pressure discomfort. So, you can either let the babies cry and distrub other passengers or you can breastfeed and disturb other passengers. Is that a Catch 22? I think I would prefer a mother to breastfeed as would any rational human being.