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Comments on: Ableton Suspends Development to Focus on Bug Fixes for Live 8

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By: Music of Sound » ProTools 9 Release Date

Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:31:56 +0000

[...] holding back on new releases so they can squash all bugs in the current release – see this CDM post – an incredibly admirable stance to [...]

By: Kizzy

Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:55:43 +0000

Good night, Happy Fool's Day! A very elderly couple is having an elegant dinner to celebrate their 75th wedding anniversary. The old man leans forward and says softly to his wife, "Dear, there is something that I must ask you. It has always bothered me that our tenth child never quite looked like the rest of our children. Now I want to assure you that these 75 years have been the most wonderful experience I could have ever hoped for, and your answer cannot take all that away. But I must know, did he have a different father?" The wife drops her head, unable to look her husband in the eye, she paused for moment and then confessed: "Yes. Yes he did." The old man is very shaken, the reality of what his wife was admitting hit him harder than he had expected. With a tear in his eye he asks, "Who?... Who was he? Who was the father?" Again, the old woman drops her head, saying nothing at first as she tried to muster the courage to tell the truth to her husband. Then, finally, she says, "You". Happy April Fool's Day!

By: Create Digital Music » A New Theme in Music Technology: Slow Development

Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:41:44 +0000

[...] the software side, people are still talking about Ableton’s decision to freeze development to fix their software. It’d be a mistake to read too much into that: the 8.1 release of Live wasn’t up to [...]

By: Robair Report » Why Is This So Complicated?

Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:42:43 +0000

[...] Live, and the first controller created for the system, the Akai APC40). The topic was picked up by Peter Kirn on his excellent Create Digital Music (CDM) blog, where he gave it context and opened up the topic [...]

By: jmob

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:40:26 +0000

@Dennis DeSantis Whoa, are you saying that my lowly post on your forum spurned the action of your CEO that in essence, made this lovely thread possible? I'm honored. But seriously, thanks buddy. I suppose that all of this bickering, handwringing and straight up nasty attacks (what up fools?) shows that you have a healthy user base. For good or for ill, that's awesome. Now, back to crushing beats.

By: Peter Kirn

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:15:25 +0000

I think it's a vast oversimplification to say "no plug-in support" means "more stable." If Reason and Record are stable for you, great, but their lack of plug-in support isn't necessarily the reason. For the record, check the changelog in Live 8.1.1 - or, for that matter, any changelog in any DAW. You can have plenty of stability issues and crashes without ever touching a plug-in. Some of these were simply mistakes in development. Those things happen; it's a matter of whether you can find and correct all of them before shipping. It's possible to have a stable app that supports plugs, just as it's possible to have an unstable app that doesn't. Eliminating plug-ins does eliminate variables, and more importantly it changes other things you may develop in terms of things like control and timing. But assuming it's the dependent variable would be a mistake, and I'm sorry if I implied that.

By: erf

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:59:01 +0000

Reason is probably the closest thing to hardware stability I've seen in software. As pointed out, it is because it is very closed. No external plug-ins. I use Reason like I would a hardware synth within Live. The way I interpreted this statement by Ableton was "Our eyes got bigger than our heads. In our top down focus on adding functionality, we lost sight of many of the things people came to count on with Live (mainly stability). We are going to redirect our focus to rebuild lost trust with our customer base." This may be naive thinking, but it follows from my interactions with Ableton Support since version 6, which has been largely positive. Of course, I do not stress Live as much as others. Personally I have not encountered many problems, but I largely stick to Ableton devices and instruments. I bought Suite primarily because I figured that Ableton's instruments and effects would be more stable than external ones. From my own experience, this has largely proved to hold true. Between rewiring Reason into Live and Live's built-in instruments, I have more than enough to compose material. I'm willing to accept a restriction in pallette for a more stable environment (as well as knowing that I will likely be able to open any project I create years into the future). This of course doesn't excuse Ableton rushing the Live 8 release (which they most certainly did), or constantly piling on new partnerships and features while leaving things like the Share functionality to rot in a still closed beta almost a year after Live 8's release. I sincerely hope that the spirit of this statement is followed through upon. Seeing things like the occasional Live 7 update still be pushed through gives me hope that this will be the case.

By: beats me

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:50:30 +0000

edison at least have the courtesy to form a legible sentence when you're being a pompous ass. I be cookin beats all day and night bro. with live7 - yo.

By: aje

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:49:45 +0000

@ wheel: For you interest: as of today 1/1/2010 Propellerhead software has announced a new permanent price structure for its core products. The Record + Reason Duo bundle now costs just EURO 409. So the permanent full price of Record/Reason is now cheaper than the Ableton 10th Anniversary Sale price of Live 8 Suite. I don't personally think that is jugely important, but as you seem very interested in proving a point about pricing, I though you would want to know for the sake of future fairness and accuracy that Record/Reason is now less expensive.

By: Mudo

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:40:20 +0000

... @edison you are right but this is not only complaining and it is not real quick. It has took more time than this post. How to do it positive with support channels fail? Loud? Gentle? Nothing works. Better CDM with alternatives... ...