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Updated: 2016-12-21T15:29:15.831-05:00

 



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Wait so nobody got the part where (spoilers) he...

2012-08-28T20:41:55.085-04:00

Wait so nobody got the part where (spoilers) he's being influenced by some weird other worldly power from a dimension yet to be birthed? Or the part where Spike's word actually makes things happen in the Angel books and after the Hell Moment he literally says "Angel is a bad guy with a stupid name and agenda that makes no sense.", pretty much all for the sake of being a pouty pete about Angel again?

Granted, these ideas ARE insane, which I get was the point of the article, but they far from lowered my opinion of Joss and his storytelling. So far the comics have entertained me, albeit differently from the shows, which are easily more established canon to be sure. But characters changing, becoming mopey and boring, or sexually exploratory, or possessed by weird demon lion thingees is par for the course with these guys. I respect your opinion, but in mine, it was an interesting, weird ride that I hope to see continue into a more "usual" Buffy storyline with Season 9 and the (again spoilers briefly) lack of magics.

In the end, this is about Angel though. Final word from me, is that he was evil, but obviously not soulless evil. There was a strange type of residual magic left over both from LA and from the thing to be born of Buffy and Angel cosmic boning, etc etc. The new Angel and Faith book looks great. Two mopey dark avengers killing stuff, waxing poetic (even if badly!), and trying to bring back a dead lead Buffy character sounds awesome to me. I've yet to read either of the new books though, so I can't say for sure. Hang in there and hope you enjoy the new, more toned down stuff. I can totally get why people would think Season 8 went friggin over the top. But for me, it has it's moments. ~Joe




2012-07-19T23:15:02.442-04:00

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2010-10-06T10:41:40.591-04:00

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1. At the end of After the Fall, time was reverse...

2010-09-24T08:07:01.073-04:00

1. At the end of After the Fall, time was reversed and they were returned to the day before LA fell. Therefore, no time had passed and that means Angel has a lot of time to catch up to Buffy's comic.

2. Angel has killed innocent people already. Remember Drogyn? He's clearly moved towards a grey area ever since he went to Wolfram and Hart. He has adopted the mentality that the end justifies the means. Also, it's explained his actions as Twilight were done because Whistler told him it was the only way for Buffy to live, and that is completely within his character.

3. As for the argument that Angel's new powers are unprecedented and that Buffy should have recognized him, we should at least wait for the next Angel series to attempt to explain this. If we are so willing to accept that Angel was suddenly turned human (As well as Gunn) why is it hard to believe that Angel can acquire new powers? Dracula is one example of a vampire with extra powers, and Angel could at least be considered his peer. Also, a simple voice changing spell would be easy for Angel if he's already gone to the trouble of masking himself.



"The timelines don't overlap yet," s...

2010-06-02T18:19:42.313-04:00

"The timelines don't overlap yet," said Allie. "The 'Angel' series at IDW picks up at end of 'Angel' television series, but 'Buffy: Season Eight' started up a significant amount of time after the television series ended."



I read 32-33 today. Man! Angel became a douchebag!...

2010-04-05T21:48:39.312-04:00

I read 32-33 today. Man! Angel became a douchebag! Dean Winchester would be so happy! Faith was right back in S3 when he was talking to her about killing someone and she said he needed professional help. He needs! He, in possession of his soul, killed people before, but at least we had the comfort that he did out of his mind (W&H people x Darla and Dru) or he didn't have other choice (Drogyn and Fred), but now... he KILLED when he could have avoided it all... and he beat Faith... I mean, he'd beat Buffy (he did, huh)... but I can't see Angel beating Faith. Right now Angel is a fucking delusional bastard. It is horrible that in the end both man she loved, one lover and the other father, lied to her about something important. But then, he was stupid enough to follow the stupid vision Cordy gave him and sent the whole LA to hell just because of his personal vendetta against W&H... even though he gave his friends a choice he didn't give Buffy because he talked to them about it all. I wonder how the LA population would feel if they knew it. Seriously, no excuse give redemption. As of now... I really hope that the signing way his shanshu he did in S5 can hold because he sooooooooo doesn't deserve to be a human being... EVER AGAIN!!!



I am twilight not angel I work in subway, buy the ...

2010-03-26T23:37:38.735-04:00

I am twilight not angel I work in subway, buy the $5 footlongs please



I'm really trying to feel like I shouldn't...

2010-03-22T21:09:47.636-04:00

I'm really trying to feel like I shouldn't have started to read the comics. Buffy the show never reached that point where it actually sucked, and I was so happy about that, but COME *THE* FUCK ON, how can Twilight be Angel?! I genuinely think they just ran out of ideas or something, because this is painfully stupid and unlike Joss. Remember the way he beat her up? Angel would be freakin' crying throughout the whole thing if he had to hurt her like that. I mean, DAMMIT, couldn't they whip some stuff up and do something that made a tiny smidgen of sense?
Good entry. Agree with you on everything on there.



I know this is very unlikely since Angel has an on...

2010-03-15T16:08:10.854-04:00

I know this is very unlikely since Angel has an ongoing series, but I hope this ties up the Shanshu prophecy with Angel inadvertantly causing the Apocalypse since this would tie Wolfram & Hart into the story and maybe even Spike.
This is all leading to the end of Season 8 and it would really be a climactic end if Buffy, Angel and Spike defeat Wolfram & Hart and save the world from the Apocolypse and Angel fullfills the prophecy that he will turn human resulting with him reuniting with Buffy in the Buffy series where his story began. I am sure there are a million reasons this would not work but it would be awesome if Joss Whedon could some how make it work.
But that's just me.



You know, he says he's not Angelus, but he cal...

2010-03-12T23:05:26.345-05:00

You know, he says he's not Angelus, but he calls her "Buff." Season 3, when he pretends th ebe Angelus to trick Faith he calls Buffy "Buff" and she says he only called her that when he was evil . . .



"Let's count the ways this is retarded:&q...

2010-03-12T19:21:20.569-05:00

"Let's count the ways this is retarded:"

Lmao...I was so excited to see you say that because I agree completely.

Huge Buffy fan...but the comic has done little to hold my interest. Admittedly I still get it in the mail every month and rip it open, as I have done from the first issue, because I will always have a soft spot in my heart for her, whether I'm going on 28 or not. But I mean...I basically read it in a very cursory way, just hoping for *something* that will make it good again. Every month. It's been a long time to hope.

And like many Buffy fans, I'm sure, I'm happy to see Angel back. But this is completely wrong and a huge bump in the road. Ugh. There is just no way to count. I think we could get up to 5,256 and still not be done counting the ways of retardation that this is. Yeah.

--UTP



Also, doesn't Dawn hint at something even wors...

2010-02-25T16:45:41.236-05:00

Also, doesn't Dawn hint at something even worse coming? "We always end up fighting bigger monsters."



Oh, btw, as for the rights issue - I'm sure An...

2010-02-25T16:31:41.226-05:00

Oh, btw, as for the rights issue - I'm sure Angel would have been sold as a supporting character to Dark Horse in the original Buffy package. This would also explain the lack of Angel supporting characters, or a lawsuit by IDW.



Giving it even more thought, there are even more r...

2010-02-25T16:16:21.573-05:00

Giving it even more thought, there are even more reasons why Angel could be logically portrayed as this kind of morally dubious character that logically represents the Twilight of the Slayers:

1) He, whilst still ensouled, locked Darla and Drusilla in a basement with a lot of human lawyers.

2) If anything happened to Connor, it could conceivably end up with him taking this route, e.g. Eve tracking down Connor and killing him to get revenge on Angel.

3) Have we actually ruled out Wolfram and Hart's involvement?

4) Wasn't the power Buffy unleashed confined to a single weapon? If those who created the weapon had the ability to empower so many people, why didn't they do it?

5) Isn't this the first vampire antagonist the series has had since season two? Kind of sparse given the show is about a 'vampire' slayer.

6) Who connects Warren, Amy and Riley outside of the slayer inner-circle?

7) This is more of something you may not have thought of - if Angel is the big bad, and the Fang Gang are out of action... Doesn't that mean we could see the return of an old favorite, sadly missing from this season?

SPIKE! We need his brand of seeing through the B.S. as it is one thing Buffy has been needing for most of the story. Plus, it's the reason why Spike couldn't have been Twilight - both him and Cordelia were in the cast to say the things that needed to be said, and no-one else would admit to. He would've just gone up to Buffy and tried to persuade her. Plus, his absence suggests something happened with him and Angel...