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Comment on Comparative Misogyny by nojo

Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:35:35 +0000

@mellbell: The problem I’ve had with Groping Analysis, as I’ve seen it, is the presentation of it as exonerating: No legal harm, no foul. He wasn’t really grabbing, so what’s the problem? My problem is that it’s a prima facie violation of a sleeping woman. And, given the stated circumstances of discovery, if she wants to call it a grope, I’m not going to object. Were I her lawyer, I might advise otherwise. As to the nature of the violation, well, it’s dehumanizing. It’s abusive. I’m far more troubled by the Forced Tongue, but I’m sufficiently troubled by the Faux Grope to lack interest in close analysis. It’s not whether or not Fingers Were Laid, it’s the importance being assigned. I’m not a court, I’m a fellow human sitting in judgment. And I honestly don’t see a substantial difference. Unless our shared idea of personal space is a lot more limited than I thought it was.

Comment on Comparative Misogyny by mellbell

Sun, 19 Nov 2017 19:51:04 +0000

There are two parts to this, the kiss and the photo, right? To my mind, the kiss, as it played out, is unequivocally wrong. Unwanted sexual contact is sexual assault. He may genuinely remember the interaction differently (perhaps something along the lines of, "The kiss was in the script anyway and I just played it up for laughs"), but she says she expressed discomfort with the idea of kissing at all and it seems she was expecting a chaste peck if their mouths even made contact (which she was trying to avoid altogether and managed to do later on stage). Then there's the photo. I think it matters a great deal whether he mimed groping her or actually groped her. Only one of those is a crime. That doesn't mean miming it is harmless, though. When I was 22, I drank too much at a party and curled up in an armchair to sleep it off. Later I saw that someone had taken a picture of me sleeping. I was embarrassed and a little annoyed, but ultimately I saw the humor in it. Looking back, I can imagine all kinds of alternate scenarios. What if someone had posed next to me holding a sign saying "Drunky McDrunkface"? What if someone had taped that same sign to me, meaning they'd touched me (albeit nonsexually) while I was asleep? What if someone had mimed groping my ass for the camera? What if someone had actually groped my ass? All of those would have felt like violations, but again, only one of them would have been unlawful. Franken did bad things, for which he apologized and Tweeden accepted. I think it's entirely appropriate for the Senate to investigate, to show that even a sitting Senator can face professional consequences (e.g., censure) for their behavior, past or present. And I think it's critically important that Franken be held accountable for following through on the last part of his apology:
And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.
Actions speak louder than words, and I'm looking forward to seeing him walk the walk on this.

Comment on White People Suck by ¡Andrew!

Fri, 17 Nov 2017 22:09:47 +0000

@mellbell: For the record, my munnie would've been on Jason Momoa because, well... I like 'um BiiiiiG, and* daaaayyyyuuuuuummmm!!1! *Trigger warning: Aquaman

Comment on White People Suck by ¡Andrew!

Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:12:09 +0000

So... what're we expecting for the Friday newsies: Alien invasion? Reverse vampires? Flynn indictment?

Comment on White People Suck by ¡Andrew!

Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:09:05 +0000

"One out of every three Tdumbp voters is just as stupid as the other two."

Comment on White People Suck by nojo

Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:08:43 +0000

Watching my liberal FB friends circle the wagons around Al Franken is very dispiriting.

Comment on White People Suck by ¡Andrew!

Fri, 17 Nov 2017 14:59:24 +0000

@nojo: No wonder our rulers treat us with so much contempt.

Comment on White People Suck by nojo

Fri, 17 Nov 2017 07:10:04 +0000

Race, race, race, race, race. Josh at TPM was discounting the Fox poll, because how could votes shift like that in Alabama? Simple. They didn’t. Among whites. But Moore’s black support, already, uh, light, fell through the floor since Friday. The Fox story notes Moore’s loss of support among women. But if the white vote hasn’t changed, that loss is among black women. Race, race, race, race, race. Sorry, America. We’re far from done dealing with White Shit.

Comment on White People Suck by nojo

Fri, 17 Nov 2017 06:53:11 +0000

Ah, found the Fox poll crosstabs. So: The white vote has remained consistent — around +19 — across all three polls. But where the first poll had Mooore -55 among blacks, the new poll has him -72. And there’s yer 8-point Jones lead.

Comment on White People Suck by ManchuCandidate

Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:39:33 +0000

@nojo: Less is indeed Moore.